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The Baker-Merlo Family Tree<ref name=Foot016/> indicates that John-b1730's parents were John-b1711 Baker and Susan Dorlin, both born in Suffolk England, and that their other 3 children were born in Suffolk between 1732 and 1745. This suggests that, either John-b1711 and Susan returned to England after the birth of John-b1730, or they were not his parents, or his indicated birthplace is incorrect. Thus, while there is some indication that John-b1730's parents lived in Newfoundland (if he was indeed born there), there is some uncertainty about who they were and whether they lived permanently in Newfoundland prior to his birth. | The Baker-Merlo Family Tree<ref name=Foot016/> indicates that John-b1730's parents were John-b1711 Baker and Susan Dorlin, both born in Suffolk England, and that their other 3 children were born in Suffolk between 1732 and 1745. This suggests that, either John-b1711 and Susan returned to England after the birth of John-b1730, or they were not his parents, or his indicated birthplace is incorrect. Thus, while there is some indication that John-b1730's parents lived in Newfoundland (if he was indeed born there), there is some uncertainty about who they were and whether they lived permanently in Newfoundland prior to his birth. | ||
It seems likely that John-b1730 or his father was the "John Baker, a fisherman of Trinity, 1758" who, in a comprehensive historical review<ref name= | It seems likely that John-b1730 or his father was the "John Baker, a fisherman of Trinity, 1758" who, in a comprehensive historical review<ref name=Foot018/>., was identified as the earliest instance of a Baker in Trinity Bay. The above indication<ref name=Foot012/> that John-b1730 and Grace moved to Heart's Ease "around 1750" suggests that the 1758 Trinity fisherman<ref name=Foot017/> was John's father. However, the indication in the Baker-Merlo Tree<ref name=Foot016/> that their 3 children (John-b1750, Joseph and Elizabeth) were born in Trinity between 1750 and 1758 suggests that their move to Heart's Ease may have been gradual or seasonal. Other early instances<ref name=Foot017/> of Bakers in Trinity Bay include: "John, proprietor and occupier of a fishing room at Scilly Cove (now Winterton), Winter 1800-01", "William, planter of Bird Island Cove (now Elliston), 1823", "Thomas, planter of Hant's Harbour, 1824", and "Joseph of Heart's Ease, 1830", who may have been the son of John-b1730 mentioned earlier. | ||
According to the Heart's Ease Community History<ref name=Foot012/>, John-b1730 and Grace's son John-b1750 first married Elizabeth Rogers and then Mary Piercey (or Peckham<ref name=Foot016/>), before dying in 1808. He and his two wives had a large number of children, including William-b1791 born in 1786<ref name=Foot016/> or ca 1791<ref name=Foot013/>. William-b1791 and wife Anne (b ca 1795) "moved to Hearts Content ca{{efn|name=fn6}} 1815", and had children Robert-b1817, Christian (b 1821) and James-b1826<ref name=Foot013/>. James-b1826 moved back across the Bay and married Johanna Cooper. They "moved to [[Rider's Harbour]] ca 1860 1860 [and then to Thoroughfare] and then to Snook's Harbour ca 1875"<ref name=Foot016/>. It is unknown whether the latter's move to the Snook's Harbour area influenced the move of Johanna's nephew John Loder (son of her sister Rachel) to Snook's Harbour ca 1877 [see [[ Loder|Loder Family]]], or that of her nephew William Cooper and his wife Emily Smith to Snook's Harbour in 1881 [see [[Cooper|Cooper Family]]]. | According to the Heart's Ease Community History<ref name=Foot012/>, John-b1730 and Grace's son John-b1750 first married Elizabeth Rogers and then Mary Piercey (or Peckham<ref name=Foot016/>), before dying in 1808. He and his two wives had a large number of children, including William-b1791 born in 1786<ref name=Foot016/> or ca 1791<ref name=Foot013/>. William-b1791 and wife Anne (b ca 1795) "moved to Hearts Content ca{{efn|name=fn6}} 1815", and had children Robert-b1817, Christian (b 1821) and James-b1826<ref name=Foot013/>. James-b1826 moved back across the Bay and married Johanna Cooper. They "moved to [[Rider's Harbour]] ca 1860 1860 [and then to Thoroughfare] and then to Snook's Harbour ca 1875"<ref name=Foot016/>. It is unknown whether the latter's move to the Snook's Harbour area influenced the move of Johanna's nephew John Loder (son of her sister Rachel) to Snook's Harbour ca 1877 [see [[ Loder|Loder Family]]], or that of her nephew William Cooper and his wife Emily Smith to Snook's Harbour in 1881 [see [[Cooper|Cooper Family]]]. | ||
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====Ancestors of John-b1837==== | ====Ancestors of John-b1837==== | ||
Less is known about the distant ancestors of John-b1837 who also moved to the Snook's Harbour area in the 1870s. According to the Davies-Churm-Hodgkins-Baker Tree on Ancestry<ref name= | Less is known about the distant ancestors of John-b1837 who also moved to the Snook's Harbour area in the 1870s. According to the Davies-Churm-Hodgkins-Baker Tree on Ancestry<ref name=Foot018/>, John-b1837 and siblings Robert (b 1838) and Charity (b 1840), all born in Hearts Ease{{efn|name=fn5}}, were the children of Robert Baker (1812-1891) and Priscilla Miller (b 1809 in Kerley's Harbour). Robert-b1812 is indicated to have been born in England<ref name=Foot018/>; however, the Heart's Ease Community History<ref name=Foot012/> mentions two Robert Bakers descended from John-b1750 (and his wives) who seem to be possible candidates for Robert-b1812: a son Robert (but this seems unlikely to be him since John-b1750 died in 1808, before Robert-b1812 was supposedly born), and a grandson Robert who was another son of William-b1786 and hence an older brother of James-b1826. The latter scenario would mean that John-b1837 and James-b1826 were indeed brothers as has been proposed<ref name=Foot011/>, such that the birthplace of Robert-b1812 in the Davies-Churm-Hodgkins-Baker Family Tree<ref name=Foot018/> is misleading and perhaps incorrect. | ||
John-b1837 married Sarah Ann Langer<ref name= | John-b1837 married Sarah Ann Langer<ref name=Foot018/>, probably of Hearts Ease<ref name=Foot012/>, and they had children James-b1867, Robert-b1868 and John Thomas (b 1873), all born in Heart's Ease<ref name=Foot015/><ref name=Foot018/>. Presumably these children moved with them in the 1870s to the Snook's Harbour area. James-b1867 married Jessie Hiscock of Salmon Cove and they settled in Snook's Harbour proper, and John Thomas died in St. John's in 1935<ref name=Foot018/>. The fate of Robert-b1868 is unknown. | ||
In summary, considering that both James-b1826 and John-1837 moved from Heart's Ease to the Snook's Harbour area and that all of the Heart's Ease Bakers were probably related in some way (even if distantly), it does not seem inappropriate to refer to all of the Bakers of Snook's Harbour as part of an extended Baker Family. And it may indeed be that James-b1826 and John-b1837 were brothers, but this remains uncertain. | In summary, considering that both James-b1826 and John-1837 moved from Heart's Ease to the Snook's Harbour area and that all of the Heart's Ease Bakers were probably related in some way (even if distantly), it does not seem inappropriate to refer to all of the Bakers of Snook's Harbour as part of an extended Baker Family. And it may indeed be that James-b1826 and John-b1837 were brothers, but this remains uncertain. | ||
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James-b1826, listed in 1896 as a "ferryman"<ref name=Foot015/>, and Johanna were among (if not) <u>the</u> earliest permanent settlers in the Snook's Harbour area, during the 1870s<ref name=Foot011/>. This timing is consistent with the above birth locations of their children. It is noteworthy that the baptisms of Johanna's great nephews Elkanah (b 1877) and Thomas (b 1879) Loder (sons of her nephew John Loder who also settled in Snook's Harbour in the 1870s [see [[Loder|Loder Family]]]) were also not recorded in the Trinity Anglican Church (like William-b1878's wasn't), consistent with both families moving to Snook's Harbour around this time and losing contact with the Trinity church. Johanna was the only child of Edward I and Ann Cooper to move to Snook's Harbour, although two of their grandsons also did so later [see [[Cooper|Cooper Family]]]. | James-b1826, listed in 1896 as a "ferryman"<ref name=Foot015/>, and Johanna were among (if not) <u>the</u> earliest permanent settlers in the Snook's Harbour area, during the 1870s<ref name=Foot011/>. This timing is consistent with the above birth locations of their children. It is noteworthy that the baptisms of Johanna's great nephews Elkanah (b 1877) and Thomas (b 1879) Loder (sons of her nephew John Loder who also settled in Snook's Harbour in the 1870s [see [[Loder|Loder Family]]]) were also not recorded in the Trinity Anglican Church (like William-b1878's wasn't), consistent with both families moving to Snook's Harbour around this time and losing contact with the Trinity church. Johanna was the only child of Edward I and Ann Cooper to move to Snook's Harbour, although two of their grandsons also did so later [see [[Cooper|Cooper Family]]]. | ||
====John-b1837 Baker and Family==== | ====John-b1837 Baker and Family==== | ||
John-b1837 and Sarah Ann (nee Langer) Baker initially lived in Heart's Ease but moved to the Souley's and Wake's Brooks area in the 1870s. They had at least 3 children, all born in Heart's Ease<ref name=Foot015/><ref name= | John-b1837 and Sarah Ann (nee Langer) Baker initially lived in Heart's Ease but moved to the Souley's and Wake's Brooks area in the 1870s. They had at least 3 children, all born in Heart's Ease<ref name=Foot015/><ref name=Foot017/>: | ||
* James-b1867 who married Jessie Hiscock (b 1872) of Salmon Cove. They settled in Snook's Harbour proper and had children: | * James-b1867 who married Jessie Hiscock (b 1872) of Salmon Cove. They settled in Snook's Harbour proper and had children: | ||
** Robert James (b Oct 1893, d Nov 1893) | ** Robert James (b Oct 1893, d Nov 1893) | ||
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: James-b1867 died in 1945 and Jessie in a later year. | : James-b1867 died in 1945 and Jessie in a later year. | ||
* Robert who was born in 1868; and | * Robert who was born in 1868; and | ||
* John Thomas who was born in 1873 and died in St. John's in 1935<ref name= | * John Thomas who was born in 1873 and died in St. John's in 1935<ref name=Foot017/>. | ||
With one (William-b1878) of John-b1836's sons and one (James-b1867) of John-b1837's sons raising their families in Snook's Harbour, there was a substantial Second Generation of the Random Island Baker Family in Snook's Harbour. Then, with 6 of William-b1878's children and 3 of James-b1867's children living in Snook's Harbour during adulthood, there was a large Third Generation of the Baker Family there. | With one (William-b1878) of John-b1836's sons and one (James-b1867) of John-b1837's sons raising their families in Snook's Harbour, there was a substantial Second Generation of the Random Island Baker Family in Snook's Harbour. Then, with 6 of William-b1878's children and 3 of James-b1867's children living in Snook's Harbour during adulthood, there was a large Third Generation of the Baker Family there. | ||
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<ref name=Foot015>{{cite web |url=http://ngb.chebucto.org/ |title=Newfoundland's Grand Banks – Genealogical and historical data for the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador}}</ref> | <ref name=Foot015>{{cite web |url=http://ngb.chebucto.org/ |title=Newfoundland's Grand Banks – Genealogical and historical data for the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador}}</ref> | ||
<ref name=Foot016>{{cite web |url=https://www.ancestry.ca/family-tree/tree/180826644/family?cfpid=342359827967&fpid=342360005991&usePUBJs=true |title=The Baker-Merlo Family Tree on Ancestry.ca can be found at the link. Ancestry.ca is a genealogical website with Family Trees based on records and input from its members. It includes some Family Trees with inaccurate information and relations, such that they are not fully reliable.}}</ref> | <ref name=Foot016>{{cite web |url=https://www.ancestry.ca/family-tree/tree/180826644/family?cfpid=342359827967&fpid=342360005991&usePUBJs=true |title=The Baker-Merlo Family Tree on Ancestry.ca can be found at the link. Ancestry.ca is a genealogical website with Family Trees based on records and input from its members. It includes some Family Trees with inaccurate information and relations, such that they are not fully reliable.}}</ref> | ||
<ref name=Foot017 | <ref name=Foot017>{{cite book | ||
|last=Seary | |last=Seary | ||
|first=E.R. | |first=E.R. | ||
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|pages=iv,574 | |pages=iv,574 | ||
}}</ref> | }}</ref> | ||
<ref name=Foot018>{{cite web |url=https://www.ancestry.ca/family-tree/tree/88378257/family?cfpid=44570901170&fpid=270006123693&usePUBJs=true |title=The Davies-Churm-Hodgkins-Baker Tree on Ancestry.ca can be found at the link.}}</ref> | |||
<ref name=Foot019>{{cite book | <ref name=Foot019>{{cite book | ||