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It seems likely that John-b1730 or his father was the "John Baker, a fisherman of Trinity, 1758" who, in a comprehensive historical review<ref name=Foot06/>., was identified as the earliest instance of a Baker in Trinity Bay. The above indication<ref name=Foot02/> that John-b1730 and Grace moved to Heart's Ease "around 1750" suggests that the 1758 Trinity fisherman<ref name=Foot07/> was John's father. However, the indication in the Baker-Merlo Tree<ref name=Foot05/> that their 3 children (John-b1750, Joseph and Elizabeth) were born in Trinity between 1750 and 1758 suggests that their move to Heart's Ease may have been gradual or seasonal. Other early instances<ref name=Foot07/> of Bakers in Trinity Bay include: "John, proprietor and occupier of a fishing room at Scilly Cove (now Winterton), Winter 1800-01", "William, planter of Bird Island Cove (now Elliston), 1823", "Thomas, planter of Hant's Harbour, 1824", and "Joseph of Heart's Ease, 1830", who may have been the son of John-b1730 mentioned earlier. | It seems likely that John-b1730 or his father was the "John Baker, a fisherman of Trinity, 1758" who, in a comprehensive historical review<ref name=Foot06/>., was identified as the earliest instance of a Baker in Trinity Bay. The above indication<ref name=Foot02/> that John-b1730 and Grace moved to Heart's Ease "around 1750" suggests that the 1758 Trinity fisherman<ref name=Foot07/> was John's father. However, the indication in the Baker-Merlo Tree<ref name=Foot05/> that their 3 children (John-b1750, Joseph and Elizabeth) were born in Trinity between 1750 and 1758 suggests that their move to Heart's Ease may have been gradual or seasonal. Other early instances<ref name=Foot07/> of Bakers in Trinity Bay include: "John, proprietor and occupier of a fishing room at Scilly Cove (now Winterton), Winter 1800-01", "William, planter of Bird Island Cove (now Elliston), 1823", "Thomas, planter of Hant's Harbour, 1824", and "Joseph of Heart's Ease, 1830", who may have been the son of John-b1730 mentioned earlier. | ||
According to the Heart's Ease Community History<ref name=Foot02/>, John-b1730 and Grace's son John-b1750 first married Elizabeth Rogers and then Mary Piercey, before dying in 1808. He and his two wives had a large number of children, including William-b1786 born in 1786<ref name=Foot05/>. William-b1786 "moved to Hearts Content ca 1815", and his son James-b1836 and wife Johanna (nee Cooper) "moved to [[Rider's Harbour]] ca 1860 and then to Snook's Harbour ca 1875"<ref name=Foot02/>. It is unknown whether the latter's move to the Snook's Harbour area influenced the move of Johanna's nephew John Loder (son of her sister Rachel) to Snook's Harbour ca 1877 [see [[ Loder|Loder Family]]], or that of her nephew William Cooper and his wife Emily Smith to Snook's Harbour in 1881 [see [[Cooper|Cooper Family]]]. | According to the Heart's Ease Community History<ref name=Foot02/>, John-b1730 and Grace's son John-b1750 first married Elizabeth Rogers and then Mary Piercey, before dying in 1808. He and his two wives had a large number of children, including William-b1786 born in 1786<ref name=Foot05/>. William-b1786 "moved to Hearts Content ca{{efn|name=fn6}} 1815", and his son James-b1836 and wife Johanna (nee Cooper) "moved to [[Rider's Harbour]] ca 1860 and then to Snook's Harbour ca 1875"<ref name=Foot02/>. It is unknown whether the latter's move to the Snook's Harbour area influenced the move of Johanna's nephew John Loder (son of her sister Rachel) to Snook's Harbour ca 1877 [see [[ Loder|Loder Family]]], or that of her nephew William Cooper and his wife Emily Smith to Snook's Harbour in 1881 [see [[Cooper|Cooper Family]]]. | ||
For future reference, John-b1730 and Grace were the great grandparents of James-b1836. | For future reference, John-b1730 and Grace were the great grandparents of James-b1836. | ||
====Ancestors of John-b1837==== | ====Ancestors of John-b1837==== | ||
Less is known about the distant ancestors of John-b1837 who also moved to the Snook's Harbour area in the 1870s. According to the Davies-Churm-Hodgkins-Baker Tree on Ancestry<ref name=Foot06/>, John-b1837 and siblings Robert (b 1838) and Charity (b 1840), all born in Hearts | Less is known about the distant ancestors of John-b1837 who also moved to the Snook's Harbour area in the 1870s. According to the Davies-Churm-Hodgkins-Baker Tree on Ancestry<ref name=Foot06/>, John-b1837 and siblings Robert (b 1838) and Charity (b 1840), all born in Hearts Ease{{efn|name=fn5}}, were the children of Robert Baker (1812-1891) and Priscilla Miller (b 1809 in Kerley's Harbour). Robert-b1812 is indicated to have been born in England<ref name=Foot06/>; however, the Heart's Ease Community History<ref name=Foot02/> mentions two Robert Bakers descended from John-b1750 (and his wives) who seem to be possible candidates for Robert-b1812: a son Robert (but this seems unlikely to be him since John-b1750 died in 1808, before Robert-b1812 was supposedly born), and a grandson Robert who was another son of William-b1786 and hence an older brother of James-b1836. The latter scenario would mean that John-b1837 and James-b1836 were indeed brothers as has been proposed<ref name=Foot01/>, such that the birthplace of Robert-b1812 in the Davies-Churm-Hodgkins-Baker Family Tree<ref name=Foot06/> is misleading and perhaps incorrect. | ||
John-b1837 married Sarah Ann Langer<ref name=Foot06/>, probably of Hearts Ease<ref name=Foot02/>, and they had children James-b1867, Robert-b1868 and John Thomas (b 1873), all born in Heart's Ease<ref name=Foot03/><ref name= | John-b1837 married Sarah Ann Langer<ref name=Foot06/>, probably of Hearts Ease<ref name=Foot02/>, and they had children James-b1867, Robert-b1868 and John Thomas (b 1873), all born in Heart's Ease<ref name=Foot03/><ref name=Foot06/>. Presumably these children moved with them in the 1870s to the Snook's Harbour area. James-b1867 married Jessie Hiscock of Salmon Cove and they settled in Snook's Harbour proper, and John Thomas died in St. John's in 1935<ref name=Foot06/>. The fate of Robert-b1868 is unknown. | ||
In summary, considering that both James-b1836 and John-1837 moved from Heart's Ease to the Snook's Harbour area and that all of the Heart's Ease Bakers were probably related in some way (even if distantly), it does not seem inappropriate to refer to all of the Bakers of Snook's Harbour as part of an extended Baker Family. And it may indeed be that James-b1836 and John-b1837 were brothers, but this remains uncertain. | In summary, considering that both James-b1836 and John-1837 moved from Heart's Ease to the Snook's Harbour area and that all of the Heart's Ease Bakers were probably related in some way (even if distantly), it does not seem inappropriate to refer to all of the Bakers of Snook's Harbour as part of an extended Baker Family. And it may indeed be that James-b1836 and John-b1837 were brothers, but this remains uncertain. | ||
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{{efn|name=fn1|Prepared by [[User:Jloder|John W Loder]] ([mailto:JohnWLoder@gmail.com JohnWLoder@gmail.com]) with input from Barry Cooper ([mailto:BarryCooper1973@hotmail.com BarryCooper1973@hotmail.com]). John is a great-great grandson of Rachel Cooper and Silas Loader of Ireland’s Eye. He has done extensive research on the ancestry of the Loder and other families of Snook's Harbour. Barry is a great-great grandson of Johanna Cooper (Rachel’s sister) and James Baker who were among the earliest settlers in the Snook's Harbour area.}} | {{efn|name=fn1|Prepared by [[User:Jloder|John W Loder]] ([mailto:JohnWLoder@gmail.com JohnWLoder@gmail.com]) with input from Barry Cooper ([mailto:BarryCooper1973@hotmail.com BarryCooper1973@hotmail.com]). John is a great-great grandson of Rachel Cooper and Silas Loader of Ireland’s Eye. He has done extensive research on the ancestry of the Loder and other families of Snook's Harbour. Barry is a great-great grandson of Johanna Cooper (Rachel’s sister) and James Baker who were among the earliest settlers in the Snook's Harbour area.}} | ||
{{efn|name=fn4|The notation “FirstName-b####”, such as “James-b1836”, where “b” refers to born and "####" to a specific (or approximate) year, will be used to help track different members of the Baker Family, specially those with the first name of James or John.}} | {{efn|name=fn4|The notation “FirstName-b####”, such as “James-b1836”, where “b” refers to born and "####" to a specific (or approximate) year, will be used to help track different members of the Baker Family, specially those with the first name of James or John.}} | ||
{{efn|name=fn5|[https://swahsociety.com/communities/histories/hearts-ease-beach "Heart’s Ease Beach"], located near the mouth of Southwest | {{efn|name=fn5|[https://swahsociety.com/communities/histories/hearts-ease-beach "Heart’s Ease Beach"], located near the mouth of Southwest Arm, will be referred to here-on-in as "Heart’s Ease". It is distinct from [[w:Little_Heart's_Ease,_Newfoundland_and_Labrador|"Little Heart’s Ease"]] about 5 km away.}} | ||
{{efn|name=fn6|The [square brackets] within a "quote" here and elsewhere indicate words inserted within the quote based on other information provided by the source. Elsewhere in this summary, the terminology "around year" will be replaced by “ca year” (short for “circa” year), e.g., ca 1750.}} | {{efn|name=fn6|The [square brackets] within a "quote" here and elsewhere indicate words inserted within the quote based on other information provided by the source. Elsewhere in this summary, the terminology "around year" will be replaced by “ca year” (short for “circa” year), e.g., ca 1750.}} | ||
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