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=The Baker Family of Random Island{{efn|name=contrib1}}=
=The Baker Family of Random Island{{efn|name=fn1}}=
The first two Baker families to settle permanently in the Random Island (RI) area were those of<ref name=Foot01/>
The first two Baker families to settle permanently in the Random Island (RI) area were those of<ref name=Foot01/>
* James Baker (“James-b1836”{{efn|name=fn3}}) who was born in Heart’s Ease Beach<ref name=Foot02/> (henceforth, “Heart’s Ease”{{efn|name=fn4}}) in 1836<ref name=Foot03/>, and married Johanna Cooper (1835-1902) of [[Ireland's Eye]] in 1859 [see [[Cooper]] Family]<ref name=Foot04/>, and
* James Baker (“James-b1836”{{efn|name=fn4}}) who was born in Heart’s Ease Beach<ref name=Foot02/> (henceforth, “Heart’s Ease”{{efn|name=fn5}}) in 1836<ref name=Foot03/>, and married Johanna Cooper (1835-1902) of [[Ireland's Eye]] in 1859 [see [[Cooper]] Family]<ref name=Foot04/>, and
*John Baker (“John-b1837”) who was born in Heart’s Ease in 1837<ref name=Foot03/> and married Sarah Ann Langer of nearby Gooseberry Cove in 1866<ref name=Foot03/>.
*John Baker (“John-b1837”) who was born in Heart’s Ease in 1837<ref name=Foot03/> and married Sarah Ann Langer of nearby Gooseberry Cove in 1866<ref name=Foot03/>.


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===First Generation===
===First Generation===
====Ancestors of James-b1836====
====Ancestors of James-b1836====
While there are instances of Bakers on the Southern Shore (south of St John's) and in Conception and Placentia Bays in the late 1600s and early 1700s, it seems most likely that the earliest Baker ancestor of the Random Island Baker Family to live in Newfoundland was “John-b1730” who, according to the Baker-Merlo Family Tree on Ancestry<ref name=Foot05/>, was born in Trinity in 1730 and married a lady named Grace from there.  This is consistent with the Heart's Ease Community History<ref name=Foot02/> which indicates that James-b1836 was descended from the “John Baker and wife Grace, likely of Trinity, [who] moved to Heart's Ease Beach{{efn|name=fn4}} and became the first permanent settlers in the community [around 1750]{{efn|name=fn5}}”.  John-b1730 and Grace had at least 3 children: “John Jr [b 1750], Elizabeth and Joseph?”<ref name=Foot02/><ref name=Foot05/>. John-b1730 died in 1775.
While there are instances of Bakers on the Southern Shore (south of St John's) and in Conception and Placentia Bays in the late 1600s and early 1700s, it seems most likely that the earliest Baker ancestor of the Random Island Baker Family to live in Newfoundland was “John-b1730” who, according to the Baker-Merlo Family Tree on Ancestry<ref name=Foot05/>, was born in Trinity in 1730 and married a lady named Grace from there.  This is consistent with the Heart's Ease Community History<ref name=Foot02/> which indicates that James-b1836 was descended from the “John Baker and wife Grace, likely of Trinity, [who] moved to Heart's Ease Beach{{efn|name=fn5}} and became the first permanent settlers in the community [around 1750]{{efn|name=fn6}}”.  John-b1730 and Grace had at least 3 children: “John Jr [b 1750], Elizabeth and Joseph?”<ref name=Foot02/><ref name=Foot05/>. John-b1730 died in 1775.


The Baker-Merlo Family Tree5 indicates that John-b1730's parents were John-b1711 Baker and Susan Dorlin, both born in Suffolk England, and that their other 3 children were born in Suffolk between 1732 and 1745.  This suggests that, either John-b1711 and Susan returned to England after the birth of John-b1730, or they were not his parents, or his indicated birthplace is incorrect.  Thus, while there is some indication that John-b1730's parents lived in Newfoundland (if he was indeed born there), there is some uncertainty about who they were and whether they lived permanently in Newfoundland prior to his birth.
The Baker-Merlo Family Tree5 indicates that John-b1730's parents were John-b1711 Baker and Susan Dorlin, both born in Suffolk England, and that their other 3 children were born in Suffolk between 1732 and 1745.  This suggests that, either John-b1711 and Susan returned to England after the birth of John-b1730, or they were not his parents, or his indicated birthplace is incorrect.  Thus, while there is some indication that John-b1730's parents lived in Newfoundland (if he was indeed born there), there is some uncertainty about who they were and whether they lived permanently in Newfoundland prior to his birth.
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====Ancestors of John-b1837====
====Ancestors of John-b1837====
Less is known about the distant ancestors of John-b1837 who also moved to the Snook's Harbour area in the 1870s.  According to the Davies-Churm-Hodgkins-Baker Tree on Ancestry<ref name=Foot06/>, John-b1837 and siblings Robert (b 1838) and Charity (b 1840), all born in Hearts EaseH{{efn|name=fn4}}, were the children of Robert Baker (1812-1891) and Priscilla Miller (b 1809 in Kerley's Harbour).  Robert-b1812 is indicated to have been born in England<ref name=Foot06/>; however, the Heart's Ease Community History<ref name=Foot02/> mentions two Robert Bakers descended from John-b1750 (and his wives) who seem to be possible candidates for Robert-b1812: a son Robert (but this seems unlikely to him since John-b1750 died in 1808, before Robert-b1812 was supposedly born), and a grandson Robert who was another son of William-b1786 and hence an older brother of James-b1836.  The latter scenario would mean that John-b1837 and James-b1836 were indeed brothers as has been proposed<ref name=Foot01/>, such that the birthplace of Robert-b1812 in the Davies-Churm-Hodgkins-Baker Family Tree<ref name=Foot06/> is misleading and perhaps incorrect.
Less is known about the distant ancestors of John-b1837 who also moved to the Snook's Harbour area in the 1870s.  According to the Davies-Churm-Hodgkins-Baker Tree on Ancestry<ref name=Foot06/>, John-b1837 and siblings Robert (b 1838) and Charity (b 1840), all born in Hearts EaseH{{efn|name=fn5}}, were the children of Robert Baker (1812-1891) and Priscilla Miller (b 1809 in Kerley's Harbour).  Robert-b1812 is indicated to have been born in England<ref name=Foot06/>; however, the Heart's Ease Community History<ref name=Foot02/> mentions two Robert Bakers descended from John-b1750 (and his wives) who seem to be possible candidates for Robert-b1812: a son Robert (but this seems unlikely to him since John-b1750 died in 1808, before Robert-b1812 was supposedly born), and a grandson Robert who was another son of William-b1786 and hence an older brother of James-b1836.  The latter scenario would mean that John-b1837 and James-b1836 were indeed brothers as has been proposed<ref name=Foot01/>, such that the birthplace of Robert-b1812 in the Davies-Churm-Hodgkins-Baker Family Tree<ref name=Foot06/> is misleading and perhaps incorrect.


John-b1837 married Sarah Ann Langer<ref name=Foot06/>, probably of Hearts Ease<ref name=Foot02/>, and they had children James-b1867, Robert-b1868 and John Thomas (b 1873), all born in Heart's Ease<ref name=Foot03/><ref name=Foot05/>.  Presumably these children moved with them in the 1870s to the Snook's Harbour area.  James-b1867 married Jessie Hiscock of Salmon Cove and they settled in Snook's Harbour proper, and John Thomas died in St. John's in 1935<ref name=Foot06/>.  The fate of Robert-b1868 is unknown.
John-b1837 married Sarah Ann Langer<ref name=Foot06/>, probably of Hearts Ease<ref name=Foot02/>, and they had children James-b1867, Robert-b1868 and John Thomas (b 1873), all born in Heart's Ease<ref name=Foot03/><ref name=Foot05/>.  Presumably these children moved with them in the 1870s to the Snook's Harbour area.  James-b1867 married Jessie Hiscock of Salmon Cove and they settled in Snook's Harbour proper, and John Thomas died in St. John's in 1935<ref name=Foot06/>.  The fate of Robert-b1868 is unknown.
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{{efn|name=fn1|[[User:Jloder|John W Loder]] is a great-great grandson of Rachel Cooper and Silas Loader of [[Ireland's Eye]]. He has done
{{efn|name=fn1|[[User:Jloder|John W Loder]] is a great-great grandson of Rachel Cooper and Silas Loader of [[Ireland's Eye]]. He has done
extensive research on the ancestry of the Loder and other families of [[Snook's Harbour]].  He can be contacted at [mailto:JohnWLoder@gmail.com JohnWLoder@gmail.com]}}
extensive research on the ancestry of the Loder and other families of [[Snook's Harbour]].  He can be contacted at [mailto:JohnWLoder@gmail.com JohnWLoder@gmail.com]}}
{{efn|name=fn2|Barry Cooper is a great-great grandson of Johanna [[Cooper]] (Rachel’s sister) and James Baker.}}
{{efn|name=fn3|Barry Cooper is a great-great grandson of Johanna [[Cooper]] (Rachel’s sister) and James Baker.}}
{{efn|name=fn3|The notation “FirstName-bnnnn”, such as “James-b1836”, where “b” refers to born and "nnnn" to a specific (or approximate) year, will be used to help track different members of the Baker Family, specially those with the first name of James or John.}}
{{efn|name=fn4|The notation “FirstName-bnnnn”, such as “James-b1836”, where “b” refers to born and "nnnn" to a specific (or approximate) year, will be used to help track different members of the Baker Family, specially those with the first name of James or John.}}
{{efn|name=fn4|[https://swahsociety.com/communities/histories/hearts-ease-beach "Heart’s Ease Beach"], located near the mouth of Southwest arm, will be referred to here-on-in as "Heart’s Ease". It is distinct from [[w:Little_Heart's_Ease,_Newfoundland_and_Labrador|"Little Heart’s Ease"]] about 5 km away.}}
{{efn|name=fn5|[https://swahsociety.com/communities/histories/hearts-ease-beach "Heart’s Ease Beach"], located near the mouth of Southwest arm, will be referred to here-on-in as "Heart’s Ease". It is distinct from [[w:Little_Heart's_Ease,_Newfoundland_and_Labrador|"Little Heart’s Ease"]] about 5 km away.}}
{{efn|name=fn5|The [square brackets] within a "quote" here and elsewhere indicate words inserted within the quote based on other information provided by the source. Elsewhere in this summary, the terminology "around year" will be replaced by “ca year” (short for “circa” year), e.g., ca 1750.}}
{{efn|name=fn6|The [square brackets] within a "quote" here and elsewhere indicate words inserted within the quote based on other information provided by the source. Elsewhere in this summary, the terminology "around year" will be replaced by “ca year” (short for “circa” year), e.g., ca 1750.}}
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